Exclusive Interview: Drew Powell - Butch / Solomon Grundy from 'Gotham' and The Library from 'The Librarians'

Interview by Steve J. Ray and Adam Ray

This interview contains spoilers for season 4 of Gotham.

Andrew "Drew" Powell is an American actor and veteran of vintage, quality American TV. His first television role was on Malcolm in the Middle, where he appeared in thirteen episodes. He then went on take over the roll of Hoss Cartwright on the Bonanza prequel series The Ponderosa.

Since then he's appeared on countless episodes of some of the best loved shows on TV, including HouseER, and Cold Case. To fans throughout the world he's probably best known for playing Butch Gilzean in four seasons of Gotham.

Though he was seemingly shot and killed at the end of season three, Butch was resurrected as classic comics villain Solomon Grundy for season four.

Fans of fantasy and sci-fi will also recognise him as the living embodiment of The Library on a season two episode of the excellent series The Librarians. He's also voiced characters in the hit video games Hitman: Absolution, and Grand Theft Auto V.

This weekend saw Drew attend the second annual Heroes & Villains Fan Fest. This event is the biggest event for fans that the UK has ever seen. My son Adam and I had the honour of attending this year and last as press. Amongst the many stars we had the privilege of interviewing was Drew Powell. He is one of the warmest, friendliest and most genuine people you could ever meet.

He was at his desk with his young son Leo when we spoke to him, and he was kind enough to talk to us for both Fantastic Universes, and for Dark Knight News.

Drew Powell - Live In London

Steve and Adam Ray: Hello again! Welcome back to London. Are you having fun?

Drew Powell: Hi guys. Listen... this place is great. The fans here are just incredible.

SAR: Thanks so much for everything you do, and not just on Gotham. We're huge fans of your performance as the living Library in The Librarians.

DP: Man, that is so nice to hear. It's so cool when fans talk to you about all the other stuff you've been in, and they liked it. That job was so much fun.

SAR: It was great fun to watch, that's for sure. What was it like on set?

DP: It was great! At first I had no idea what was happening. The script was really confusing at first. But I spent the whole time running around, being chased, and generally having a blast. Did you know that we had to re-shoot the whole thing again?

SAR: No! What happened?

DP: It was nuts. I was doing it at the same time as Gotham. In one show I'm clean shaven, but on Librarians I had a full beard. Did you spot the fake beard on the re-shoot? I had to go, shave, and come back, but I had no facial hair!

SAR: Wow! No, we didn't notice at all. I'm going to have to go back and watch that episode again! That's so funny!
If Librarians is picked up by another network, would you go back?

DP: In a heartbeat. I loved working on that show with Dean (Devlin - Executive Producer) and the gang. If he asked me to I would read the phonebook for John (Rogers - Developer and show-runner). 

SAR: And we would gladly watch that!

DP: (Laughs)

Life And Death And Life In Gotham City

SAR: Speaking of being picked up by networks, I guess the news that Gotham season 5 is happening, but will be the last is bittersweet at best?

DP: It is, but the fact it's happening at all is great. I don't know if season five would even be happening without the fans. You guys really helped keep the show running, and growing.

SAR: We LOVE Gotham! It's so different to all the other comics shows. The on-location shooting using New York as a living, breathing backdrop. Every episode feels like a movie. The production, and direction is cinematic. It dosen't feel like a weekly TV show.

DP: Thanks for that. That's what we aim for. Minimal green screen and CGI. Almost all of what you see on screen is physical and real.

SAR: On that subject, thanks for giving us a real, living, breathing (kind of) Solomon Grundy. When I heard that the character was coming to TV I was dreading a horrible, fake CGI monstrosity. Instead we get a real person, giving a real performance.

DP: Wow, again... thank you. We really had a ton of concerns going in. Fans of the big movies expect so much, but very rarely does a CG character give a performance on a believable level. Not without a budget of hundreds of millions of dollars. I worked really hard on becoming Grundy, I got one hell of a personal trainer too. I worked with David Harbour (the new Hellboy).

SAR: Wow, that's so cool.

DP: Yeah! The difference is that Dave still has that rubber suit/prosthetic. As Grundy that's 100% all me. Look at me in seasons 1-3 of Gotham, and as Grundy. That's two different guys.

SAR: it really is. As fans, we really admire the hard work, the dedication, and the performance. Thank you.

DP: Thanks, guys.

The Future

SAR: So, Butch/Cyrus/Solomon, has been shot, maimed, killed, reborn... and everything in between.

DP: (Laughs) Yeah, poor guy's not had an easy time of it, has he?

SAR: How would you describe his journey, and can you tell us if we'll see him again in the final season?

DP: He started out so strong. Respected... feared even. Gotham City breaks people, and makes people. Butch is a great example of that. With Fish (Mooney) he was almost at the top. He's fallen in love with Tabby (Tabitha Galavan, played by the incredible Jessica Lucas), he's had his hand chopped off. He's ben shot, killed and come back to life as a swamp monster. Will he be back again? The truth is, right now, I honestly don't know.

SAR: Solomon Grundy is never gone for long, in the comics at least.

DP: Exactly, and that's where I might have an in for the next season. Grundy isn't even truly alive, as we understand it, so there's always a chance. That's what I keep telling John (Stephens - Producer) and the writers. I hope I'll pop out again from a swamp.

SAR: He's been reborn dozens of times, from swamps and sewers. At one point point there were about ten of him running around at once in the comics.

DP: Exactly! Here's hoping. You can never say never.

SAR: Drew, thank you so much. You've been amazing. Bye, Leo!

DP: (Drew smiles). Thanks, guys. Great talking to you.
(The Gotham portion of this interview can also be found on the Dark Knight News website)


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